Monday, October 19, 2015

My interview with Nancy Kane Mark



Let me start off by saying, Nancy is truly an amazing woman and soul. I reached out to her several days ago. And ever since any questions I've had for her she answered them. So thank you Nancy for giving all of us who have followed this case some answers we have been wanting to know. 




So for starters here is how Nancy describes her look at the time: "Just to set the record straight, I was not goth, I was new wave. I liked Madonna, culture club, flock of seagulls, duran duran etc bands like that. "


Do you feel like the atmosphere at Miramonte was cruel and very competitive? 



I wouldn't call Miramonte cruel but it was hard to keep up with the joneses. It was super competitive in every way. I was lucky my dad was a doctor and we had money. Middle class didn't work in Orinda. Orinda wasn't super rich but it was definitely a town where most people lived a comfortable life. I think a lot of what was going on was simple teenage angst. We are all discovering who we are or who we think we are. There were so many cliques and were not told to be nice to each other like they do in school now. Everyone played a sport or had a thing, skiing, tennis, golf. I rode horses along with another very wealthy friend. There was also The Orinda Country Club, not everyone belonged and it was super prestigious to belong. 


And how was your relationship with Kirsten? Would you describe her as "mean"?


Kirsten and I did not interact that much because I didn't like her. I don't think she liked me either. I had changed so much and had kind of a druggy dark reputation (that I created cause I thought it was cool). We had a few classes together but there was no war being waged. She was popular, chatty, cute and social. That whole scene bored me. I just rejected it which wasn't normal for an Orinda girl. 
We were all mean at some point. So yes she was mean and snotty and thought she was better than other people. We were taught to be that way, conceited. I thought I was better than them. Bernadette was just beaten down, couldn't catch up from the beginning. I think her trying to be somebody she wasn't is why Kirsten gave her such a hard time. 




Have you seen the movie based on the case? If so do you think it got it right?


A friend to die for? I have seen it many times. Its pretty accurate except for my portrayal and Kirsten's. A little over done.


We're you shocked that Bernadette admitted to it? Did she seem like she was ever about to explode? Was she really bullied?


Yes I was shocked and mad. We had gone through Catechism together the whole time I was being blamed. She never appeared any different. I wasn't allowed to come back to Miramonte that year so I don't know how she acted at school. Everyone was bullied by someone, thats how life is.


Do you still talk to any old classmates? And was kirsten mean to everybody?


I only catch up with people through Facebook so not a lot of contact with anybody I went to school with. I don't think Kirsten was mean as much as she was cocky. She just had a lot of self esteem, some kids are like that. She did well in everything she tried. She wasn't mean to everybody. 


What's the main thing people get wrong about you? 

That I could really kill someone


Do you think the punishment Bernadette received fit the crime? 

Not really, She got a college education and was completely protected while she was in custody. Then she escapes off to a new life









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At October 20, 2015 at 1:29 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

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At October 20, 2015 at 1:39 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

Good interview. I just have a couple of questions. I would like more specifics on the comment "I think her trying to be somebody she wasn't is why Kirsten gave her such a hard time." It seems to me that because Bernadette was constantly stalking her and trying to be her friend Kirsten's only defense was to be kind of cocky, as at that age who has the proper defense skills to be any other way? Of course keeping in mind that Nancy did say that at that school, everyone was sorta trained to be cocky. Also, would like to know more specifics about how the movie was not accurate in Kirsten's and Bernadette's portrayal. It just seems the movie is very misleading as Nancy even states herself that her and Kirsten really did not interact much yet the movie shows them interacting and fighting almost the entire movie. But all in all, either way, if Bernadette was so upset and against Kirsten, why would she work so hard to friends with her? I would submit to you because Bernadette really doesn't care about others, only herself and how others perceive her. Someone who is truly bullied tries to stay away from said person. Not befriend them. It is good to finally hear from someone directly involved though. The truth is finally coming to light.

 
At October 20, 2015 at 6:34 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

Thanks for the interview....Very enlightening, my only comment is the truth is coming out now and has caught up with her! Her new life will not be so great much longer!

 
At October 20, 2015 at 5:23 PM , Blogger Unknown said...

Nancy is great. Seems like the kind of girl I would've hung out with in high school, not Bernie or Kirsten. So Kirsten was not mean, just overly confident. She was no angel, but certainly not worse than any other human on this earth. Certainly not deserving of murder. Thank you for this up front interview, Nancy.

 
At October 21, 2015 at 7:43 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

Nancy was so beautiful!

 
At October 21, 2015 at 4:10 PM , Blogger Unknown said...

I think the bigger issue is that Bernadette saw Kirsten as the cause of all of her failures in life. I always like to defer back to the article on "A Jealous Person Is A Dangerous Person". Statistics show us that juveniles that are bullied fear their bully. They try to stay away from them. They do not attack them. Jealous people attack the person they are envious off. The court was a disgrace to even make bullying part of the light sentence of Bernadette. Not to mention the lies about the knife, the party and that Bernadette had no intention of surrendering had the FBI not closed in on her. Bernadette wanted to be part of a person she claims was so "mean". The prosecution should have honed in on all these psychological factors. Not sure if anyone saw my post somewhere else on here(can't remember where) but if you go to "My Life Of Crime" and look up "Elgars" posts, those are definitely Virginia. Posing as a Banker from London with a man's picture but the vernacular is her! Just as cold as Bernadette. On one post she gave it away by having some inside information on the parole board officer that did not want to let Bernadette out. The anger came out when I mentioned this officer.

 
At November 4, 2015 at 7:02 AM , Blogger sweet angel said...

I wouldnt want to release à murderer either and what site Is that exactly?

 
At December 22, 2015 at 8:40 AM , Blogger Get over the past and move on. said...

She paid her dues. Yes she was wrong should of gotten a lot longer time for taking a life, she was publically humiliated,at her trial.

 
At December 22, 2015 at 8:40 AM , Blogger Get over the past and move on. said...

The whole community was there and a lot of students were jeering at her.

 
At December 22, 2015 at 8:43 AM , Blogger Get over the past and move on. said...

Nancy were you the one on the movie they harassed was that you in real life I hear there were others besides you they harrassed one was singled out by Costas herself. That wasn't you.

 
At January 30, 2016 at 2:26 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeannette/Bernadette should still be in jail.

 
At January 30, 2016 at 2:28 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get over the past.......your comments are ridiculous.

 
At February 9, 2016 at 1:02 PM , Anonymous april said...

Was Nancy the girl known as "Kathy Lang" in the article Death of a Cheerleader in Rolling Stone (1985)? In that article it said she was a hard core punk. It also mentioned another girl "Helena Hinton" who was also accused of murdering Kirsten Costas. I would be interested in hearing an interview with Helena (if anyone knows her real name)

 
At February 12, 2016 at 7:54 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

More than likely "Kathy Lang" is Nancy. The other girl accused was called Joanna. Do you have a link for that Rolling Stone article?

 
At February 23, 2016 at 9:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bernadette had a guy she dated at Miramonte at the time they were investigating Kirsten, bet he about freaked out once he learned his girlfriend was the murderer I heard he didn't date her long prior to that. Nancy are you the one who moved to London during all this and is Joanna the one in the movie they threw things at and at Bernadettes trial was the whole town and school there to humiliate her publically?

 
At February 29, 2016 at 6:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't feel sorry for Bernadette whatever happened or humiliation, wasn't near enough. Throw her out to the sharks that's if they'd have her. She murdered and goes on like nothing happened so I don't care about her humiliation or trial, cause to me it wasn't near enough. She needed life.

 
At February 29, 2016 at 9:16 PM , Blogger Get over the past and move on. said...

Well that s not a nice thing to say. She paid for it and would want to be left alone she still pays for it all these haters on here. She knows you all are haters she can't help but know.. It has to be miserable for her knowing how people feel about her. She don't have it easy like you think. She and to look over her shoulders all the time I couldn't do it.

 
At March 1, 2016 at 9:09 AM , Blogger Get over the past and move on. said...

It's best to stop rehashing on all this. What s been done has been done. Nothing we can do. Outing Bernadette won't make you a better person or make things better. Let God have this and deal with this. If you're true Christians you would pray the Costas family finds peace and be able to go on, and pray for Bernadette's soul, not wish her to burn I. hell. High school can be hard and esp with cliques around and peer pressure to fit on with peer s can be hard. Well I don't excuse murder, but it was an unfortunate choice.

 
At March 3, 2016 at 4:57 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would you feel 7 years is an adequate punishment for the murderer of your daughter/mother/sister? Would you support the murderer of your daughter/mother/sister getting a new identity, college education and the freedom to have a family of their own? Of course you wouldn't. Stop being heartless and have some respect for Kirsten and the Costas family.

 
At March 11, 2016 at 5:56 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey all Nancy here. My other names were Kathy Lang and Heather Crane. I know the other woman's that was ousted like me, Britt-message me if you would like that info

 
At March 11, 2016 at 1:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the person above seriously Nancy? I hope you are well and happy.

 
At August 29, 2016 at 5:43 PM , Blogger Unknown said...

The punishment was not enough .. She should still be locked away for killing Kristen

 
At August 29, 2016 at 6:10 PM , Blogger Unknown said...

The punishment was not enough .. She should still be locked away for killing Kristen

 
At October 19, 2016 at 11:06 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

That was an interesting interview. Thank you, Nancy.

 
At December 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM , Blogger Unknown said...

Such a sad situation, I can completely relate to Nancy though. I was accused of a crime I did not commit not murder (mugging a disabled lady at knife point) I was completely cast out. Even after I was proven innocent I still to this day 10 years on am still treated like a monster! I turned to drugs and alcohol to block it out. I feel like I kind of see my story myself in Nancy! I feel for everyone involved such a shit situation. Nancy if for some reason you read this I would love to chat. My name is kathryn I live in the U.K. My email is kburr-29@outlook.com.

 
At December 6, 2016 at 3:51 PM , Blogger Unknown said...

Such a sad situation, I can completely relate to Nancy though. I was accused of a crime I did not commit not murder (mugging a disabled lady at knife point) I was completely cast out. Even after I was proven innocent I still to this day 10 years on am still treated like a monster! I turned to drugs and alcohol to block it out. I feel like I kind of see my story myself in Nancy! I feel for everyone involved such a shit situation. Nancy if for some reason you read this I would love to chat. My name is kathryn I live in the U.K. My email is kburr-29@outlook.com.

 
At December 21, 2016 at 3:07 PM , Anonymous Elizabeth Bennett said...

Wow! I stumbled upon this as I watched the movie with Tori Spelling based on this case. I knew about this as I am the same age as these girls are. I remember reading it and thinking WOW!

First off, my condolences to the Costas family. I have a friend who lost a child due to sarcoma ten years ago so I have seen what it is like for someone to lose a child. It goes against nature and just not the order of things. I pray this family has found some comfort after all of this time.

However, I have to ask......what is the point of outing Bernadette? I mean I know she did something horrible and yes, she did not get enough time. To me, seven years is not enough. Then again, its California who has these laws so not a lot anyone can do except contact representatives to change the laws. I do think this was second degree murder and I do think Bernadette snapped. She felt trapped and was scared. I do not know though. I am not Bernadette nor have ever been in those shoes. Its unfair to speculate how one would act in a situation they have never been in. People have said they thought this was first degree based on what Bernadette wore that night. In the 80's we wore sweat pants casually. Going to a party is a casual place. They were "in" back then. Its not like now where they are more or less worn to relax.

So, why out Bernadette? She has been in the free world since 1992 and has not committed any other offenses since then. She has not been a danger to anyone nor has she been in the news. I imagine if she was on the wrong side of the law she would once again be in all of the media. I just do not understand the need to do this. Plus, hunting up her family I do not get either. Of course her sister is defending her. Heck, I am an only child and know that siblings stick up for each other. I dunno......I say leave them alone. They are not bothering anyone. Why bother them?

Here is something Nancy shared that makes me think Bernadette was bullied: Bernadette was just beaten down, couldn't catch up from the beginning. I think her trying to be somebody she wasn't is why Kirsten gave her such a hard time.

My question is...who was Kirsten to give her a hard time to begin with? This tells me that there was bullying involved. No Kirsten did not deserve to die. However, she did not need to give anyone a hard time either. The girl had everything going for her....why go after someone else who may not have been as fortunate? These are things I wonder.

Thanks Nancy for sharing your thoughts. I commend you for breaking out of that cookie cutter existence and become your own person. I appreciate that in others. This Orinda sounds like a nightmare on Sesame Street. Everyone has to be rich, good looking and be conceited? I can only imagine how unhappy these people must have been and must still be.

For the record, I am not Bernadette or anyone who knows her. I do not know her, her family, Kirstens family or anyone from that corner of the world. I am on the other side of the country. Interesting case and certainly something I know many could relate to...

 
At December 28, 2016 at 4:05 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

I just saw this movie last night. If it was pretty accurate, what a sad, bizarre story. They do make you feel a bit bad for Bernadette and make you feel as though Kirsten was a monster. We all had Kirstens in our schools. It's obvious that Bernadette was obsessed with her and so desperate to be liked by Kirsten. I think how the movie portrayed what took place in the car, was pretty spot on to what actually happened. Bernadette came off as seemingly having romantic feelings for Kirsten but that was not the case at all. Bernadette was trying so hard to be in 'the crowd' that if Kirsten told anyone what Bernadette had said, her life would be over (according to her). An extremely troubled young girl, so desperate for acceptance by someone who couldn't care any less about her. I don't think Bernadette had planned to murder Kirsten. She snapped. I think the knife was already in the car, unfortunately 😔 I also feel that had the knife not been there, she would have strangled Kirsten or killed her with whatever was available at the time. It didn't matter. Once she snapped, she knew she was going to kill her. What a tragic story.

 
At December 28, 2016 at 4:10 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

I definitely think Bernadette was bullied to an extent. I think that she took whatever little jabs Kirsten may have made towards her, to complete heart and devastation because of her infatuation with Kirsten and her desperation for wanting to so badly be like her. She just kept trying so hard for a friendship that was never going to happen.

 
At February 27, 2017 at 12:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nancy Kane, the other gal outed for the murder and blamed, was that the Joanna gal, she the one from a working class family? She was treated terribly at Miramonte from my understanding and understanding of other's on here, and from the movie, she got a lot of mistreatment, and finally Bernadette literally got her day in court, and was outed by the entire community and intimidated at court over it, wasn't enough as far as I'm concerned, justice was far than unfair she should of been hinged.

 
At February 27, 2017 at 12:42 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Should of been best and horsewhipped Bernadette should of been, she is such a monster.

 
At March 1, 2017 at 10:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Horsewhipped with barbed wire and razor blades and then dipped in a pool of vinegar would still be too lenient of a punishment.

 
At March 1, 2017 at 10:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, Jen, you are clearly an idiot.

 
At March 3, 2017 at 5:38 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jen, there's no excuse for murder, Bernadette needs to still be locked up, or just now being paroled, even if so, she needed more time, much more time.

 
At March 31, 2017 at 10:09 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

She's been paroled for like 25 years. Why the hell do you people even care? Find something else to talk about.

 
At April 4, 2017 at 4:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do you care if people talk about this? Can't you find something better to do with your time than write a thoughtless comment on a website
that supports a murder victim?

The purpose of this website and why people write on it has been mentioned countless times, which I'm sure you have read.

Here is a summary:

Bernadette's crime was horrific and what she put her victim through should never be forgotten about. She not only Killed Kirsten and damaged Kirsten's family, but her actions (letting innocent people get the blame) also had a damaging effect on Nancy. Her victim is still vilified due to a movie and the killer was portrayed as an innocent sympathetic character when her viscous murder of Kirsten and her actions after she murdered Kirsten are anything but innocent and sympathetic.

Bernadette has a FB page, so why don't you toddle on over there if you have nothing of substance to contribute here.

 
At July 31, 2017 at 7:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sigh, im almost a year late seeing this. I have seen the movie quite a few times. Just for the record, before i get started, i am NOT Bernadette. I do not know her, her family. I do not know Kirsten and her family either. I know this movie has stretched some truth a little bit. After all, this murder happened in the 80s. For one, the laws were different back then and there were no camera phones or really anything technical back then like there is now. I do NOT condone what Bernadette did. I do agree she should still be serving a justifiable sentence.
Bernadette will have to spend the remainder of her life remembering everyday what she has done as she should. I dont think she shouldve got that special treatment in jail that she got but like i said, times were different back then. One thing ive noticed from some of you is how you are going after her family too. What the hell is wrong with you people? You sound just as bad as Bernadette murdering Kirsten. Leave her family alone. They didnt murder Kirsten, Bernadette did. Kirsten was no perfect angel. That doesnt mean she deserved to die though. She deserved a good ass beating but not death. The people in Orinda sound like shallow hypocrites. I would never live there or even go there to visit. I would probably turn into a "Bernadette" quickly. I just think its completely wrong to attack Bernadette`s family for doing what any family would do in a situation like that. You all can say you would never do this or that if your family member murdered someone but you dont know what you do. Im not defending Bernadette. I am however defending her family. There are 2 families suffering and have suffered all of these years. A lot has changed since this happened. People change. Even though i say this now, let Kirsten finally rest in piece and leave this Protti family alone.
Nancy, you are a remarkable woman. Thank you for sharing your story.

 
At September 17, 2017 at 11:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You need help Anonymous if you think you would have turned into Bernadette. You really are pathetic.

 
At September 17, 2017 at 1:21 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Anonymous,

Sigh indeed, Anonymous. Points in your comment have been answered numerous times.

What does it matter if you have seen the movie “quite a few times”? It’s a fictional depiction. I don’t care who you are, whether it’s Bernadette, a member of her family, or Jesus himself.

“Bernadette will have to spend the remainder of her life remembering everyday what she has done as she should”

Judging from Bernadette’s behaviour after the murder, it’s highly probable that she can detach herself from the horrific crime she committed and put it behind her. Bernadette even said that she could block out the murder. "I was very good at blocking it out" – Bernadette.

Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to attend Kirsten's funeral and to be in the presence of and be able to look at Kirsten’s family whose sadness and grief would have been heart wrenchingly palpable. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to discuss Kirsten's murder in class with classmates, some of which included Kirsten's friends. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to watch as two innocent girls were blamed for Kirsten's murder. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that her behaviour was reported to not have changed after she killed Kirsten (She was described as her usual smiley self). If Bernadette was able to block out and detach herself from Kirsten's murder when she was a teenager, it's possible that she can block out and detach herself from Kirsten's murder now as an adult.

“One thing ive noticed from some of you is how you are going after her family too, What the hell is wrong with you people? You sound just as bad as Bernadette murdering Kirsten.”

So............you are comparing people’s criticism of Virginia’s lies to Bernadette stalking and butchering Kirsten to death? I think the more apt question here is: what the hell is wrong with you?

The only family member that people are critical of is the sister that said in court that she “MIGHT” have left the knife in the car to cut vegetables. Surely, if one regularly uses a 16-18inch knife to cut vegetables for lunch, they would give a straight “yes” answer when asked about the knife in court instead of trying to be evasive by saying they “might” have used it. It looks like she didn’t want to commit herself to an answer. The sister has also been discovered to defend Bernadette’s behaviour on the internet and in real life. People have expressed sympathy for Bernadette’s parents.

“Kirsten was no perfect angel”

Kirsten wasn’t a perfect angel, nor was Bernadette before the murder, nor is any-one at that age. What’s your point?

“She deserved a good ass beating but not death”

Why? Did she deserve an ass beating because she put off by Bernadette’s neediness to be around her, or with her? Bernadette worked in the school office to be closer to Kirsten. Bernadette concocted a plan to get Kirsten out of her house alone. Do you really think it’s acceptable to lure someone out of their house under false pretences and then expect a positive reaction if your lie is discovered? Do you think she deserved an ass beating because she didn’t get along with Nancy? It seems that the anonymity went both ways and both girls were not shy about expressing it (i.e.: Nancy flipping Kirsten the bird when she was with her family). I’m not criticising Nancy for that as that is what teenagers tend to do at times. If Nancy isn’t being held accountable for her teenage behaviour, Kirsten shouldn’t be either.

 
At September 17, 2017 at 1:21 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

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“The people in Orinda sound like shallow hypocrites. I would never live there or even go there to visit. I would probably turn into a "Bernadette" quickly”

I’m sure there is a mix of different types in Orinda like there is everywhere else. I don’t think it’s relevant to mention whether or not you would visit Orinda. It’s worrying that you say you would turn into a Bernadette. You are saying that you would probably murder and that’s disturbing. What is it about Bernadette that you identify with? Were you a good student with good friends who was accepted into an exclusive sorority, but that wasn't good enough? Do you have an inferiority complex? Do you have jealously issues that you are getting counselling for? Do you fixate on people to the point of obsession and try to get near them? Can you easily detach yourself from horrible events and lie like a pro for months?

“. I just think its completely wrong to attack Bernadette`s family for doing what any family would do in a situation like that”

Bernadette’s family wasn’t attacked. The sister who lied on the stand was criticised.

“. You all can say you would never do this or that if your family member murdered someone but you dont know what you do”

What? You mean murder someone because they were put off by my neediness and desperation to befriend them and then stalk them to their house and not only stab them in the stomach and neck, but slice them causing wounds that were two feet long, and be able to lie about it for months and even talk about it in class with the victim’s friend’s? Anyone is capable of murder under the wrong circumstances, but I’m unequivocally sure that it wouldn’t be under Bernadette’s pathetic circumstances.

Defend her family all you like. I don’t agree that two families are suffering

 
At September 17, 2017 at 2:45 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

*animosity went both ways, not anonymity.

 
At September 21, 2017 at 8:43 AM , Blogger MzGothicEmma said...

Maybe if people stopped thinking they was better than everyone no harm would come to them! Im not saying murdering someone is right before idiots jump the banwagon! Bullies and people who act as if their better are insecure cowards simple as NOBODY is better than anyone

 
At September 21, 2017 at 8:02 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

You're all over this blog writing different things and criticising either Bernadette or Kirsten. The animosity between Nancy and Kirsten seems to have gone both ways. Who did Kirsten bully? Do you mean Nancy? Nancy (sorry Nancy, but I'm looking at it from both sides and I’m not criticising you for what you did as a teen) didn't behave that well at times either when she was a teen, so why are you holding Kirsten accountable for alleged behaviour as a teen and not Nancy? Even if Nancy didn’t have animosity towards Kirsten, she still would have gotten shit. Why? Because she wore all black and had a druggie reputation (that she created). You know perfectly well that anyone in your school that changed dramatically and wore black and had a druggie reputation would be criticised. If Nancy wanted to wear black and do whatever, people should have minded their own business, but that’s unrealistic. Why? Because they were teenagers and teenagers are not known for their social graces and they lack foresight and insight because their brain isn’t fully developed. Does that make it right? No. If Nancy was picked on by people, her bullies should have been suspended and if they continued to do it, they should have been expelled. Can you point out how Kirsten’s behaviour was worse than any other average silly teenage girl?

Do you mean that Kirsten bullied Bernadette? If she did, why didn't Bernadette mention it at her trial which would have strengthened her case? Why couldn’t Bernadette give a straight answer as to why she killed Kirsten? If Kirsten bullied Bernadette, why did Bernadette desperately want to be friends with her? Why did Bernadette concoct a ruse to get Kirsten out of her house alone? Why did Bernadette want to be alone with Kirsten in a car-park? Surely a bully victim would hate the sight of their bully and the last thing they would want to do is spend time with them. If Bernadette was bullied by Kirsten, why would Kirsten get in her car? It wouldn’t surprise me if Kirsten was put off by Bernadette because let’s be honest, desperation and neediness repels people like the stench of a skunk.

Both Nancy and Kirsten are victims of Bernadette

 
At February 18, 2019 at 5:58 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

Here's my opinion of what really happened. I think they was both good girls I mean at 15 and 16 your just learning about life you will make mistakes for instance saying something mean to someone , like Kristen said about bernnadettes ski outfit or whatever it was. I'm sorry if my spelling is off .I was bullied in school and was never popular by any means . I was jealous of a few girls because I was this girl that was ugly and couldn't do the same things they did like cheerleading , being in good clubs being good at everything getting all the guys , having all the friends. I was in a depression over it and considered suicide over this among a few other family problems . This was pretty deep . It was painful going to school everyday seeing this and feeling it , being talked ugly about so I think what happened was she invited Kirsten to this party or just wanted to hang out with her to try & build a friendship . I don't know if it was planned about killing her or not I don't think she planned it at all because if she had planned it wouldn't she have killed Kirsten in the car or somewhere where people couldn't see anything like her car. I'm not sure what to say about her sister's knife being in the car to cut vegetables it's possible if that's what she ate all of the time because cucumbers you have to peel tomatoes you have to peel them apples you have to peel them it is possible that it was not planned. I wasn't there I wasn't born yet. No one else was there ether . No one knows for sure the only one who knows now is Bernadette. Once she picked Kirsten up for whatever reason Kirsten said she was weird once that was said Bernadette snapped and killed her . If it was not planned I think she snapped , it can happen it does happen. It shouldn't have happened at all. I'm not excusing what she did at all. I'm simply saying she may have snapped when you feel your not good enough it can make people do things without realizing what they are doing until it's to late and she may have a sickness like a mental illness that could have made her snap who knows. Now if it was planned I think that's a different story then I say she's just evil because when you plain a murder without having a change of mind then that is evil to do. No one was there we can't say this or that happened . However its not our place to judge its gods and gods alone. I hope she asked for forgiveness and I feel sorry and bad for both the family's and both girls. This should not have happened . People are saying that if she was bullied she wouldn't have wanted to be around Kirsten, that's not correct, some people try to get people to like them and fit In so the bullying will stop. I'm not saying for sure she was bullied because i was not there so I don't know but neither were you guys . Kirsten may have made a few nasty remarks that can really hurt someone. I'm not saying for sure this is the case I'm saying it's a possibility to consider. Ether way this should never have happened I feel sorry for both girls.

 
At May 7, 2019 at 4:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watched Nancy on Kids Who Killed. What a self-absorbed, selfish individual! Get over yourself!

 
At May 22, 2019 at 5:20 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree 7th of May. She didn't deserve what happened to her but she did come across as a bit of a bitch in her teens, tbh. She was all "me", me", me" in any documentary I have seen her in.

 
At August 11, 2019 at 6:50 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You don't know Nancy or Kirsten. So you can't slam them. I knew all those girls. "Nancy and Kirsten were both nice". I don't know why they didn't get along, (nor do I care). Everyone isn't going to get along. Nancy was a good girl(so she went goth), her business.

 
At August 11, 2019 at 6:58 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirsten,Carolyn,Karen,Joy and Stacy were the girls to hang with. Fun no they weren't bullies, they were interested on other stuff, had more important things to do. They were into studying, sports, good grades, and Cheerleading. They didn't have time to bully. So be sure what you say about Kirsten being mean, be sure you know "it's facts" ( not what you read on a blog).

 
At August 11, 2019 at 9:18 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You don't know Nancy or Kirsten. So you can't slam them. I knew all those girls. "Nancy and Kirsten were both nice". I don't know why they didn't get along, (nor do I care). Everyone isn't going to get along. Nancy was a good girl(so she went goth), her business.

 
At August 13, 2019 at 10:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garret 1962, I moved over on this site, (Sorry for the wait) is getting to full. Nancy on here says "she and Kirsten" didn't interact much, ( they didn't). They had several words beteewn them (nothing physical) though.... To bad they fell out, both were nice gals. They once "were friends"..... They didn't mess with Nancy that much ( other students), they messed with Joanna, and "the girl who accussed the football players of rape" Darlene and Deaana (the most). Those were the top girls bullied by Students. It happens in every school( not just Miramonte), people say Miramonte is good for "cliques and bullying outsiders" all schools do, thats part of being a teen..... Saying that if they went to a Private School that don't happen there. Yes it does a girl I know went there and transferred cause other Students were mean to her, ( not Bernadette) another girl. Bernadette wanted to see what a regular High School was like, and her bff wanted her to also. Bernadette seemily enjoyed Miramonte there for 2 years. Kirsten totally enjoyed Miramonte. She fit in easily esp. with Karen and Carolyns group. Top A group. Kirstens jokes were a blast. She was the funniest girl in the Sophomore Class at Miramonte. I see where people still say she was a mean girl, let the girl rest... And thier experience at Miramonte was a nightmare. Well people you made it a nightmare yourself. Some of you, "the choices you made set you apart" and you weren't Socially accepted due to your bad choices. Growing up and Miramonte was different for the rest of us, than it was for you all. I see your blogs about how bad you were treated, as I said, your choices weren't wise, some of your mouths were nothing but cursing, and (always in trouble at school), Students want to learn and excel, and people don't want around kids who dont try. Some you weren't happy with yourselves, and put it out there saying no one likes me. You got to like yourself first, not wanting to come to Reunions due to it. My advice is let it all go, done with, those kids( now adults) are still doing things to you. You still get on pages and write about it. You who say Kirsten "was mean, let it go, she's not here to defend herself". What did you do to her first of all? Need to stop talking about Kirsten being a snob. She isn't one now, she is at Peace, leave her alone. Some saying she was a mean girl bully who tormented less popular kids. You need to stop with that. If she did hurt you, forget it, its so distant past now. Many years and decades under the Bridge. (Same with Miramonte). You're done at Miramonte, you're not ever going to go back as a teen again. You will never be a teen ager again. Those kids you knew are now middle aged adults with lives, who don't think about you guys anymore. You should do the same. "Kirsten will always be beloved" and if you had a bad experience with her,(get over it) cause life is way to short to be focusing on stuff that is so not important. Kirstens family is in a different situation, they lost a child, that will be with them forever. Can't you find one good memory you had at Miramonte? Couldn't of all been bad. "Just leave it off the internet" and leave negativity about Kirsten off the internet as well.

 
At August 13, 2019 at 11:04 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I put some of your names on here, you all got on other blogs and told how bad Miramonte was. "I wouldn't of let it be known it bothered me"... Esp. after all these years. I seen other's post about Kirsten rude comments. Well if you're.perfect, never said an unkind word to, ( or about anyone) I want to meet you. You did your share of mean things to people to as a teen, but, :you're still alive". That's the difference!....... Teens tend to be smartalecky and caddy ( esp. girls) no right for them to die. Kirsten would of grown out of it long before now. She would be sucessful today.

 
At August 14, 2019 at 12:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need to start a memorial page for those who knew Kirsten. Classmates and People in Orinda who truly "knew her". A site about (Kirsten only), a truly Amazing "Human Being" whose life was cut short. Those who say her parent's should of "taught her better" speak for yourselves. Your parent's obviously didn't teach you (respect)... Did you know Kirsten, or is it what you read? She was absolutely no worse than (anyone else), teen girl's as I said get snippy at times..... Most, ( if not all do)... They have moment's, we had ours, as well as everyone else. I saw comments on Facebook about Kirsten on a page. Im liable to out you on here due to it. You don't know a thing about Kirsten. If anyone's a bully it's you, "attacking a deceased girl you don't know". So anyone want to post a page for Kirstens friend's, and family feel free. We can have something good to remember her by, and if it's negativity we'll delete it.

 
At August 14, 2019 at 12:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adonna Caryn Hutchins, how do you know Kirsten wasn't so innocent? I saw your remark on her page. Is it what you read? Can't go by that. I can tell you Kirsten was " Bubbly and very Bouncy"... She had faults yes, ( as we all do), but she had a good soul. She would stick up for you, even if you and she " didn't see eye to eye" she didn't hate anyone, (just didn't like the way they acted), but had no one she hated. She would let them know it, but if in trouble, "she'd help them and defend them". Some didn't like the fact she told "how it was". She was good at that. (Very).

 
At August 14, 2019 at 3:21 PM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 14, 2019 at 4:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Garret, sounds good. There's one on Facebook (how I read Adonnas comments. "Its so amazing people know Kirstens parent's didn't bring her "up right". They did and she excelled. So she had a few she didn't care for, we all do. (no one gets along with everyone).. Even our "Homecoming Queen" there s some said she was nasty to.them.... I liked her,but,this one girl didn't. On Facebook I could set one up, saying Remembering Kirsten Costas. It's disrespectful for people to post rude comments on anyone that's(Deceased).... Don't care who it is, let them rest in Peace. Her BFFs and friends and classmates who knew her, feel the same way I do. She was to busy with friends, cheerleading, sports and excelling in School (didn't have time to bully). If you type in on Facebook; Kirsten Marina Costas there s a Memorial Page there.

 
At August 14, 2019 at 10:45 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The girls who sau Kirsten was mean to (less popular) well.if you weren't a good Student, in and out of trouble, " she didn't want nothing to do with you".... She would tell you that directly to your face. (As I said) stupidity is something she wasn't a fan of... She would tell a person if they were saying "stupid stuff"... Yes she could be "rude and direct about it". Well some of it was pure BS and it was dumb. "I wasn't for it either". We had a girl that talked stupid and drove us "crazy" acted like a baby. Kirsten told her she was to big to be acting that way, and bawling was for "babies"... She was very babish (that girl). So that's why I think they say Kirsten was mean to less popular kids. Well that depends on (how they acted and excelled). If someone wasnt as well off money wise, if they were good (Students) they fit in (even with Kirsten). Girls who smoked and drank and cussed, Kirsten did'nt want to be around them either. So it's probaly a former Miramonte outcast saying that on here. Someone who acted "Dumb"... They made themselves (Outcasts). Kirsten would of grown out of that today. Her BFFs were the same way, and they grew out of it..(Diane and Stacy) and many. We all were "mean teens" but we overcame it, Kirsten would of as well. So people need to cut her slack "she was no worse than any other teen girl".. I even was (sassy) at times. Just normal for teen girls. Who's with me there? They get sassy with adults to, ( teen gals)... Kirsten and us girls were to busy with "School and Sports".. We didn't see girls who were less popular as ( nerds and misfits) or talk nean to them. We figured they were shy and quiet, and gave no thought on them... We didn't harrass them. So they thought of Kirsten, Stacy and Diane as "Snobs" they didn't know them. Kirsten and them didn't really think about them or see them in any way (as I said). They were Socially Quiet, and kept to themselves. (So we thought).

 
At August 14, 2019 at 10:49 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garret you know how to post a Memorial Pag

 
At August 15, 2019 at 5:31 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 15, 2019 at 1:44 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kind of leary about posting emails. Cause Bernadette and her bff will find me out.

 
At August 15, 2019 at 2:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just better we all remain anonymous. That way we can't.be revealed (or harrassed) or Identity stolen. So much going on in the World. On facebook Ill create a Memorial page for Kirsten and that wau classmates and friends can post memories(no negativity about Kirsten or your bad experience at Muramonte), we don't care and they shouldn't either. Should of discussed it 30 years ago. Its about Kirsten" not what she did to you" (get over it). Can't change it. So if one gets set up on Facebook any negativity about the 2 things I mentioned, you will be blocked off that page(former Miramonte Students), one's who create the drama cause "they weren't accepted". I won't get into (why) i already Stated "Why" it's being left there. It's in earlier comments. Kirstens family and friends would really love that page. "Also no discussion about Bernadette either". It's for happy times. Missy Availa has a (Memorial Page). Missy was hispanic and kind of wild from what I read, even if so,(like Kirsten), no right for her to get murdered either. Didnt know Missy, that was 5-1/2 hours South of us. Dont matter if she was wild and fought,and loose with guys, no one deserved what she got as well as (Kirsten).. Kirsten wasn't wild at all. She wasn't into that. Ill try and set a page up on facebook and get back and let you know.

 
At August 15, 2019 at 3:57 PM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 15, 2019 at 4:35 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Id take it off for your own privacy and protection (email). I enjoy talking about (Kirsten) and her friends. We all had some awesome times. I can try and look for pics to post on here, some tbt pics. ( throwback Thursdays) as they call it. Got one of Kirsten with Christy and Jeff on our Washington DC trip..1981. I wasn't friends with her then ( just aquainted) became friends 3 months later... Ill see if I can find it. I liked Jeff so I kept it. He was another Zack Morris on "Saved by the Bell" Bran Yaichs was another (Principal Belding). Jeff looked like Zack and Bran sort of favored Mr. Belding. Bran was a (cool Principal). He wanted people to do thier best. Kirsten was kind of like Lisa Turtle. You heard that one. Ill look for those pics and see where they're at, and try to post them...one of Kirsten, Stacy,Carrie and Diane waving and Kirsten sticks her tongue out. Good old days. I doubt her friends will get on here and reveal themselves cause of Privacy issues. If they do, it'll be under "Anonymous or Unknown". Jeff was so much fun and funny to. Ill look tonight for those pics.

 
At August 16, 2019 at 7:57 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 17, 2019 at 10:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ill try and get a secondary email. "Bernadettes BFF" and people like that, (I'm leary of)... Her BFF (badmouthed Kirsten) wwll Kirsten wasn't crazy about Kris either, and, " neither was I". She was sort of odd to me (Kris) that is. No one has seem hee either (or cares to). Just heard she was down to nothing "size 0". Probaly from the years of partying and having fun, " caught up with her now".... Nwver wished that on her. I liked Bernadette, not her (BFF). If we set up a page, maybe post pictures as well as comments on the page. Alot of former Students would enjoy that. Kirsten was so beloved, don't care what Kris says, cause she was "one of the few Kirsten didn't like".... No reason to say those nasty things "about Kirsten. "Kirsten never liked her to start with"... Neither did I, or (Kirstens friends). This one girl was a slower learner, now Kirsten and I, and the rest liked her. She tried her best, acted right, just wasn't aa smart as other's. We would help her with homework. Kirsten would as well, "she understood her". If you acted up, Kirsten didn't want you around. Kris would brag about getting (drunk all the time, Kirsten and them knew she was off to start with) but they let her around, but they didnt know she was "odd". She told her business. Once she did that, and "defended Bernadette" she was a "misfit" like those other's. Principal Yaich made other's leave her alone due to " the trial"....

 
At August 18, 2019 at 8:42 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Britt 27", could you set up a " Memorial Page" for (Kirsten). No diacussioms concerning(Bernadette) at all. This would be a page for Kirstens friend's. family and Classmates to " post fond memories" of Kirsten. Also for.people who never met her, but supported her on these sites, like for Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, and for her (Birthday). Britt would you be able to do that? People really missed and will always miss Kirsten and love her. She was a get along girl who. "mostly" got along with everybody. If this page does "come to pass" (keep the negative Kirsten comments off) and if you still have problems with (Kirsten) after. All these years, seriously (get help)....Also keep your negative experiences with "Miramonte" off the site to. We don't care if you were "bullied" should of settled it (years and decades ago)... Those kids are now Genuinely caring adultd, so let it be. I hope Britt takes this into (consideration)....

 
At August 18, 2019 at 10:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brit doesn't respond. Your idea would be better rather than allowing negative comments or dumb arguments.

 
At August 19, 2019 at 5:29 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 19, 2019 at 10:32 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beautiful page Garret... That was well detailed to. "Beaitiful photo of Kirsten"... I hope Diane and her other friends see her page. Today some kids say Cheerleaders are "Snobs" while other's say thier "nice". Well maybe to some people they are, cause they dont want to be bothered with that kid cause their always in " trouble"... Kirsten was so "lovey dovey" with almost everyone... Thanks for her picture and (Facebook) page.

 
At August 19, 2019 at 10:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

We can even friend her. "So former Clasmates, and friends", Kirsten now has a Facebook Page.

 
At August 19, 2019 at 11:22 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 19, 2019 at 4:18 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awesome, Her friends and all will appreciate it
So would her family...

 
At August 19, 2019 at 4:50 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Aug.18th,2019 at 10;29.PM
. Its a grand idea. No.negativity eill be on, we can block.them. Garret set up a nice page on (facebook) check it out.

 
At August 19, 2019 at 6:05 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garret, Thanks so much.. Any former Students from (Miramonte) " who knew Kirsten" help us all by creating (Memories) of Kirsten you had.... You can even friend her page, share all the good times you had. We had plenty. Ill see if I can find the pics from our(DC) trip with " Kirsten, Jeff and Christine"... Had some here. "We can post pics to"... Tell a story about the pics ( and fun you had)....Her memory lives on forever. Forever we love you "Kirsten".......

 
At August 19, 2019 at 6:19 PM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im sure Miramonte folks will see it. Cause her name will pop up on "Facebook" in that area to add on. You see it alot long list of people to friend in your school and area. Her name may of come across already. You would pf adored her Garret, so some defined her (as a snob).lots of "Cheeleaders" are defined that way by someone. I personally loved "Kirsten" so did everyone else. Her page will help us all remember her. She was a great (people pleaser). She and her friends all were!.... Id love to see her 2 close friends. "They were a blast".. We all enjpyed(life)...

 
At August 21, 2019 at 11:37 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 22, 2019 at 11:12 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone hacked into my account and stole my information... Not the first time either.

 
At August 22, 2019 at 11:26 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta make a new one. So sick of all.this

 
At August 22, 2019 at 12:17 PM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 23, 2019 at 7:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh I know.... "Its a pain"....Someone's always hacking. Messenger is alot of it. Beautiful pictures on her page.. Wish I could find one on the "trip to DC". It's around the house here somewhere.

 
At August 23, 2019 at 8:12 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At August 27, 2019 at 10:17 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trying to set up a new Yahoo account. Haters and Hacker's. There was another Kirsten in our class who was "extremly popular"... She was on (Homecoming Court) and Head Cheerleader. She,Karen,Carolyn and Lauren were "Top Dogs". Our Kirsten got in that (very group).. I was on Kirstens page till some "Hater" hacked me out. That Hater erased all.my data and friends list. Wish they could catch them. That Person sent dirty messages from me caused people to infriend me. Don't know if someone is doing it for kicks cause they're bored with thier own (lame life) or if its someone with a Vendetta, "wish they would catch them"..... Anyway I may use another Network for an Account,or, get rid of Messenger. I just don't see why people can't be Normal and act "Normal" always for something to do for thier own Personal (Entertainment).

 
At August 27, 2019 at 10:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garret, you would of loved us all. (Kirsten and friends)... We were about funtimes. Our class was family, only a handful didn't fit in. Thats everywhere.... We all fit in...

 
At August 27, 2019 at 12:40 PM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At September 1, 2019 at 5:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im working on an account now. Im sure more will add and her friends she beloved. They remember her and love her.

 
At September 1, 2019 at 5:50 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope Diane and Stacy get on her page..... Alot of people in the Bay Area were upset and scared over :these murders". One teen girl in Sam Francisco.7 months later was found murdered along the bay and today is (unsolved)... People were afraid to leave thier kids home alone, then a year laterSouth of us (5 hours away) Missy Avila gets murdered " another young teen girl. We really didnt know much on that one, around here was "disturbing enough".... People were just so upset over all this.... I came home 2 hours late my parents thought (something bad) happened to me.... It was that bad. I didn't call lost track of time. Nothing was ever the same after all that.

 
At September 3, 2019 at 2:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stephanie Durney, or (whoever you are), saw comments all over these blogs writing under "Aliases" then saying who you are. and saying you're Gay.. Why do you write the same things over and over? It was so unbelievable. Even Bernadette would be "freaked over you".... You need to stop and get a life. Obviously yours is Pathetic.

 
At September 4, 2019 at 10:12 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garret. I see this zStephamie all the time,(still.tiday) on "other sites".. She's just probaly "lonely"... Well Im still working on a new FB page... I wont get Messenger.... Hacked everytime... I may have to get A new phone....Trying for a new email address....

 
At September 4, 2019 at 10:34 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At September 18, 2019 at 11:52 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garret done got my page and sent a request. I just hope I dont loose the password. Check.her page

 
At September 18, 2019 at 11:58 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garret send information on it to Diane Macdonald, Stacy Bennett and Joy Damiels, Im sure they would be delighted, also invite them to "join page". Go to Diane Macdonalds page and invite people from Miramonte (off her page). Maybe they dont know about it yet.

 
At September 18, 2019 at 12:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Diane was Kirstens "BFF". Bernadette these days is quiet and (low keyed). Oh well, even though it's past, she knows it hasn't been(forgotten)
Shame she had to destroy her own life with that (one bad decission).. Bernadette had a "bright future" ahead of her. Definately College bound. Kirsten had a bright future also. One decission (esp a bad one), can change your life forever. There's people writing bad comments on Bernadettes Youtube, Id leave her alone, (not sticking up for her) but she can go to the proper Authorities and say you're (harrassing her). Some say this is Kirsten from Heaven " thats so disturbing and sick"... Its best to leave her be... Cause you don't know what she will do.. She will pay for it, if not in this life, she will another. The harrassment she got (was more than enough). Just leave Kirsten and the Costas family name "out of it".. Your Screen name is on her Youtube Comments. The Authorities are liable to feel sorry for Bernadette, (believing) she's being a victim of harrassment, or again. they may not care. Question is ,you want to take that chance"?

 
At September 18, 2019 at 12:31 PM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At September 24, 2019 at 2:24 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

It's not a good idea to post the names of K's friends. They are entitled to their privacy. If you knew/know Kirsten's friends, why are you telling a stranger to contact them and why are you posting their names? Doesn't make sense. BP didn't destroy her life though, did she? She got a new name and her record was/is hidden from the public. The vicious murder of Kirsten was a lot more serious than "one bad decision".
"Cause you don't know what she will do". I don't care what she does.

 
At September 24, 2019 at 2:26 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Do you have to have a FB account to look at the FB you created for Kirsten?

 
At September 24, 2019 at 2:33 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

September 18,

The only shame in this sad case is that Bernadette butchered Kirsten. Bernadette did go to college. I don't care about her YT page. What exactly can she go to the authorities about? Some people are calling her a murderer which is a fact. If she didn't want any attention, she wouldn't have created a YT or FB page.

 
At September 24, 2019 at 2:37 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

September 4, Are you talking to the person above you (Sep 3rd)?

 
At September 24, 2019 at 4:03 PM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At September 25, 2019 at 5:57 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Hi Garret. I'm not on FB, unfortunately. How is the memorial page getting on? Who is being hacked? The owner of this blog has started posting again. There is a new article asking if people have seen the new life time movie. I haven't. Have you?

 
At September 26, 2019 at 4:45 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At September 28, 2019 at 9:45 AM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Hi Garret.

That was a nice thought. Sorry you hare having a hard time with it. I haven't seen "so many people" still writing negative comments about Kirsten. Sure, some write negative comments. I've seen just as many neutral/positive comments. An example is Bernadette's youtube vid. A little bit of critical thought would help people realise Bernadette was never innocent, but some people are traumatised by their own experiences in HS school and project their negative experiences onto Kirsten, or they believe the biased first movie is fact when it clearly states situations have been dramatised. I'm sorry for the people who had a rough time in H.S, which is something that can have a negative impact on someone well into their adult years, but there is no evidence Kirsten was as insufferable as the character who portrayed her in the movie. Some people who identify with the fake character based on Bernadette conveniently overlook the evidence that Bernadette was a snob.

The person who was hacked gives the impression that she didn't know Kirsten at all, which is why it was probably called a joke. I could be wrong. Why would she be hacked instead of you?

 
At September 28, 2019 at 10:38 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At September 30, 2019 at 2:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ill just post on here. A few (former Miramonte Students) were not happy with thier names being used, " and discussion of the bullied girls". They felt it was to private and (deatailed). It just was unethical to do. Thier names were used by (Publishers) that's different... They were mad at Some other girl on Facebook for telling Publically about a girl. Well it is wrong and I "understand" I thought.it'd be a good idea for Kirsten. They mostly dont want thier names associated with Bernadettes( former Miramonte Students) dont blame.them, she's a killer. Always will be.

 
At October 2, 2019 at 5:32 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

That's understandable. It's not appropriate to mention their names on any forum and I can certainly understand not wanting to be associated with a killer. Don't know why Garrett deleted his/her comments.

 
At October 3, 2019 at 6:10 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At October 3, 2019 at 5:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it that one chick.

 
At October 3, 2019 at 5:05 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alot of fantasists. Yeah I know Trump been to the White House had dinner with him. That is my fantasy. Probaly never stepped foot in Orinda, let alone Miramonte.

 
At October 6, 2019 at 7:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garrett, How do you know they're fantasist cause of thier grammar? Im sure Miramonte isn't all Geniuses. Im not saying this persom is or isn't. Who knows. Well sorry it didn't go as planned. It wasn't me dont know where Orinda is. Have a good day.

 
At October 6, 2019 at 7:44 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

That person put out to much stuff. About the bullied girls, thats personal stuff. If I was assaulted I wouldn't want it known, or bullied and a outcast with my name. It's very rude. That can cause repercussions and flashbacks if any of those girls see it. And using the friends name, Id be angry to.

 
At October 7, 2019 at 5:41 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At October 7, 2019 at 12:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garret, Im not accusing anybody of anything. I did know Kirsten and "them". Some remember me (some dont).. There were hard feelings over thier names spread across "the internet".. They feel now everyone knows "who they are"... They don't want associated at all with Bernadette, cause she's a murderer, they hope they never see her again..( No danger of that)... No one wants to talk about Bernadette in Orinda all (cause she murdered a popular girl), all over jealousy. They see Bernadette theyd probaly ,spit on her". She is to this day hated and always will ne her remaining days on Earth..

 
At October 7, 2019 at 12:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bernadette lives in Texas or Oregon now. She

 
At October 9, 2019 at 6:27 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Hi Garret,

You're not a fool and I'm sorry you felt that way. There is nothing wrong with giving a person the benefit of the doubt, especially when they write a lot of detailed stories about people and their memories of Miramonte. It's hard to fathom that a stranger would go to such great lengths to insert themselves into Kirsten's life that they would concoct elaborate stories about different people and themselves.


Was the FB message sent to you by a fake account? I don't mean to nit-pick, but if someone is going to comment on another person's inability to write a grammatically correct comment, it's odd that they failed to capitalize their sentences. If the person is a fantasist, the cynic in me wonders if she wrote you that comment just to mess with you. It's very similar to a comment I wrote a few months ago and the resident troll is known to copy and paste comments and try to pass them off as her own. She is also known to pretend to be different people. I'm not saying it's her, just pointing out the similarities.


It could also be a legitimate person who can't write a grammatically correct sentence because of a learning disability. I don't believe that, but I can be too sceptical at times and wouldn't mind being proved wrong

 
At October 9, 2019 at 6:44 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Hi Garret,

"It is truly disappointing that there wasn't more support shown on it,but it's difficult to change peoples minds when they believe movies they see."

Creating the memorial page was kind.From what I understand, isn't the FB page kind of hidden? Not everyone is into FB (like me). I'm sure you've seen on this blog how hard it can be to talk to someone who believes the movie is true, even if you show them it isn't. Some adults are too immature to engage in critical thinking. I've come across plenty who understand that Kirsten is the victim. The silly trolling posts don't help the blog and it would be great if they were deleted.

 
At October 9, 2019 at 6:49 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Anonymous,

" There were hard feelings over thier names spread across "the internet""

Are you a different Anonymous? It's hard to keep up sometimes. What bullied girls?

 
At October 11, 2019 at 10:15 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen, I dont always wear glasses when I write, I hate glasses. Also, it messes up grammar. The Bullied Girls were "Miramonte" and the other girls were (Kirstens friends). Im not saying another word about them. To much details were given away, and it's been way to many years ago, "it's already done and over with". I know there were (Aliases) on here impersonating, not my problem..... I seen it quite a few times.....Have a good day.

 
At October 11, 2019 at 10:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ill let those from Miramonte, who were ()actually involved).come on here and tell " if they want to"... Kirstens friends, Nancy and the other girls. Its better to hear it ditectly from them.

 
At October 12, 2019 at 10:43 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good idea Annoymous 11. Someone who was there please come forward fill us in on facts. Nancy even.

 
At October 13, 2019 at 12:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Oct.11. Done told everything. Im not saying no more. Read above Posts....Let the.other friends come forward. {Kirstens) "if they want to"... Otherwise its not important.... Yes the murder is important, (and the case), but so much times passed, that maybe, "they decided to move on" and not think about it. It wasn't a pleasant memory.

 
At October 19, 2019 at 8:36 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Ok. I don't know what girls you are talking about, but I understand you can't talk about them.

 
At October 21, 2019 at 1:59 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Miramonte gals.

 
At October 21, 2019 at 2:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirstens friends and all. (Bullied girls) who still are suffering "from the effects" and people who claimed Kirsten was nean.... Time to let it go. Saw all thier posts.... Everyone's moved on. High School is over with..

 
At October 21, 2019 at 2:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to the (bullied girls) and whom Kirsten was mean to, Kirsten isn't here to (defend herself).. Those high school kids you knew, "are grown adults now"...

 
At November 4, 2019 at 5:32 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Ok.

 
At November 5, 2019 at 7:05 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At November 5, 2019 at 11:50 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im not sure I will
Remember I "fantasize'.. Anyway good luck Garrett with (Kirstens Memorial).. She was the victim, and,she was not "mean" cant picture her as a.(mean girl bully)...

 
At November 5, 2019 at 12:44 PM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At November 5, 2019 at 8:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Garrett. Lynn had issues. No. Kirsten was by no means a " mean girl bully".... She just had to get (to know a person)... Most of those cheerleaders were accussed of being "stuck up" more misunderstood. They have thier own friends they hang with. They are not one's who get in trouble, fights, Detention or, (Suspended from School).. Kirsten didn't hang with those kind, no top Students "hung with them"... Even. Bernadette was a "top Student" she got good grades.and hung with kids who did... Thats why we were all in disbelief over what she did. She was a "very unlikely suspect".... Ill look up. Kirstens page....

 
At November 6, 2019 at 3:28 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually take offence at being called a trouble maker Garret. I was merely pointing out that the girl pretending to be a school friend is lying. If she was then she would have contacted Kirsten's friends to get them to join instead of asking you, to them you're a stranger and that is why you had no luck. This lady isn't even American. I am closer to this case than you think but choose to not disclose any details and it makes me cross when people pretend to be what they're not. Kirsten's friends are still in contact and meet up from time to time but she claims she has lost touch with them. Anyway, you seem genuine and I felt compelled to point this out. This is someone else's f/book as I will not disclose who I really am. Good luck with the memorial.

 
At November 6, 2019 at 1:45 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Nov 6th. If youre so close to the case you contact her friends then. I am not close to it but read up on it. Is that girl really lying? Cant say she is or isnt. But if she is she has problems. You act like you know the actual people who were there, or its a fantasy. How do you know Kirstens friends still meet up? I dont doubt they do. You know them then you contact them. The girl who isnt English is weird. I seen her post on here.

 
At November 6, 2019 at 1:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

If someone is pretending to know the whole people Kirsten knew, get help then. Why fabricate.

 
At November 6, 2019 at 5:24 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

If someone is pretending to know the whole people Kirsten knew, get help then. Why fabricate.

 
At November 6, 2019 at 5:33 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Well Lynn you can't accuse people of lying. Maybe the girl did know Kirsten, and didn't have contact with Kirstens friends. She had alot of details on Kirsten. It was wrong she gave her friends name out. Again, she may of not knew Kirsten but I gave her the benefit. Kirstens friends need thier privacy to. If they see theyre names are given out, people can contact and google them, even they're surname. I doubt she was a friend, she wouldn't of used their names. If she was or is thier friend, they need a new friend cause this one's a idiot.

 
At November 6, 2019 at 5:44 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Also Lynn. If you know them, and Kirsten!why don't you tell us about the real Kirsten. Was she a bully? Did you know the wrongly accused girls and Bernadett? Don't give names of people whose names aint been released. There were mentioned of bullied girls there, their names were given out. Im sure they will appreciate thier names and details of thier lives given out. Im sure they want to be reminded of a traumatic incident, if that so what it added up to. Oh well the whole deal was crazy. I can believe Kirsten was nice. I heard 2 sides. Well we all have a dark side. Take care Lynn. let us know more on Kirsten.

 
At November 6, 2019 at 7:50 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Hi Garret,

You are very kind. I hope the memorial goes well. I'm not on FB, but I will certainly look it up. I'm sure it's lovely. All the best.

 
At November 6, 2019 at 7:51 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Anonymous,

Who is Jen and Lynn?

 
At November 6, 2019 at 7:54 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Hi Garret,

I had a look at the memorial. It's lovely. I love the beautiful fields of lavender.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 12:32 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

In answer to the above questions: Everything this so called friend said about Kirsten and her friends has been published in various articles. I did not know Kirsten but have an acquaintance who did. She was cocky and arrogant but not a bully. I know that Kirsten's friends find it irritating when people with a morbid fascination contact them, they don't need comfort from strangers. This will be my last post as I have no desire to get into any communication about this sad affair, I occasionally have a look at the blogs and the comments from this "friend" got under my skin. Respect to Kirsten and her family.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 9:28 AM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Well don't know the situation, maybe she did know Kirsten, and maybe she didn't. But my understanding, this is to keep Kirstens memory alive. This blog is for her honor and nothing morbid about that! It is totally up to you if you want to post on hete, but you can't accuse people of making up stories, if she really is its all on her for lying. I don't know you or her so I can't judge. But that gal from England probaly isn't the only one with fantasy fas
cinations, you dont know for sure it's her either. Im not here to judge anyone. But do be sure if you want to accuse someone, particularly that gal from England. Well have a great day.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 10:05 AM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Garrett a lovely gesture. Im not saying that girl was a fantasist, but she gave out to many details on her friends that should of not.been subjected on here. For instance thier names. And she gave way to many details on the girls from the other side of the tracks. That was no ones business and they were nt a part of this discussion. Im not insinuating she didnt know Kirsten and was not her friend, perhaps she probaly was more aquaintance and they talked to her, so she assumed they were her friends. That's possible. Some folks you say hi to them or talk to them, then you're theyre bff. Not saying this is the case. If Kirsten was cocky no right for her to get savagedly murdered. Well the whole scenario is offbeat. I jusr pointed out to Lynn that she shouldn't accuse someone of lying. Again makes me wonder also cause of the way she called out all those peoples names if she was indeed a friend. Not saying Lynn is lying either but in some ways I believe Lynn, cause of all the details above. I described. Put my entire.name out on Social Media and blogs and my personal business and better hope I never find out who you are, and see I wont make trouble for you. I would. But take care Garret. Ill be on here more. I seen lots of these blogs.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 10:36 AM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Thank you, Nov 7, 12:32.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 10:38 AM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Nov 7, 10:05,


Are you a different Anon to the Anon that knew details about Kirsten and posted them a few months ago? Who is the fantasist people are talking about?

 
At November 7, 2019 at 10:58 AM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Nov 7, 10:45,

No-one has mentioned "that gal from England" but you.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 10:59 AM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Lynn sorry if I came off harsh. I just meant the girl is probaly someone they would talk to and say hi to, and she automatically said they were her good friends. Id say more aquainted, or maybe total stranger. Cause you dont give out details Nationally on your friends. I sure wouldn't. Im not saying she's lying, she probaly just thought since they spoke they liked her. Like some girls when a guy says hi to them that theyre in love with them, or viceversa. Well no one really knows. I uust thought to much was given away that could publically embarrass alot of people. She obviously isnt to bright to do that. Well take care.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 11:02 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At November 7, 2019 at 1:26 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Lynn sorry if I came off harsh. I just meant the girl is probaly someone they would talk to and say hi to, and she automatically said they were her good friends. Id say more aquainted, or maybe total stranger. Cause you dont give out details Nationally on your friends. I sure wouldn't. Im not saying she's lying, she probaly just thought since they spoke they liked her. Like some girls when a guy says hi to them that theyre in love with them, or viceversa. Well no one really knows. I uust thought to much was given away that could publically embarrass alot of people. She obviously isnt to bright to do that. Well take care. Karen also look at Lynns 1st comment to Garret when she says I don't appreciate being accussed of a troublemaker, and said the girl was lying and it was an English Woman. We dont know who it was, or if she was a total stranger, or some wannabee aquaintance with a dream.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 3:55 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Karen November 6th 2019 at 3:26 AM. Anonymous wrote she didn't appreciate being accused of causing trouble. She just said the girl isn't evem American. She dont know and there was talk of an English Woman before. Anonymous Nov 6 at 3:26 AM. Its that one.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 4:21 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Anonymous, she just said the "fantasist" wasn't American. Nothing about being English.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 4:22 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Hi Garret,

You're welcome. All the best.

 
At November 7, 2019 at 4:29 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

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At November 7, 2019 at 4:32 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

"Not saying Lynn is lying either but in some ways I believe Lynn, cause of all the details above. I described. Put my entire.name out on Social Media and blogs and my personal business and better hope I never find out who you are, and see I wont make trouble for you. I would. But take care Garret. Ill be on here more. I seen lots of these blogs."

???????


"better hope I never find out who you are, and see I wont make trouble for you. I would"

Who are you threatening?

 
At November 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Karen, lots of ways I believe Lynn. Im pointing out the chick who used Kirstens friend's names, and used those other girls pointing details is very Unethical. Those girls dont need they're business spread out on these blogs. Lynn didnt do it, that other chick who said she knew Kirsten. I don't think she was really friends with them or she wouldn't of told thier names. Talking about girls who were ran out is personal business, had nothing to do with this case of Kirsten. She mat of been a total stranger, or just barely knew them. But Id be mad if my name was used and personal details were discussed about me, its not a threat, I would tell the person, or persons what I think about them. Cause no one wants thier names and personal lives exposed to the World, and thier dirty laundry aired. Its rude and ruthless to me. Kirstens friends wanted it known they'd come forth and tell tgemselves. And the other girls who were bullied, that is no ones business, Im sure they want the World knowing thier misfortunate mishalfs. Just

 
At November 7, 2019 at 5:27 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Sorry Karen for any misunderstanding. Hope were cool on here. Take Care.

 
At November 8, 2019 at 12:10 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

I didn't think you were threatening me. I was just confused about your comment. Are you a different person to the woman that starting conversing with Garret a few months ago?

 
At November 8, 2019 at 12:34 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

I had just started comversing on here, and told Garret his Memorial settings was awesome. Not actually conversed persay!. Im not one to fight, Im a lover not a fighter. I was mostly referring to that one chick calling people out for the World to see who they are, and know some of thier Personal Life History. I believe some things sre better off unsaid, and some things need to be kept Private. I think she was the one Conversing with Garret. Giving out Kirstens friends names to him, and having him contact them, if she was as good as friends as she said, she should of contacted them. Id be so freaked. But she may of knew them, but probaly someone who wanted so bad to be in with them, and they didn't want her. I read alot of Wannabees were trying to fit in, and Couldn't. I dont know if thats the case even. I would be freaked as I Stated earlier if a Stranger was to contact me over my deceased friend. Maybe Garret will have better luck this time. Im sure Kirstens friends get on here time to time, and they will see its real.

 
At November 8, 2019 at 12:40 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Even if Kirsten was real Cocky, no right to Savagely murder her. Most teens are Cocky and outgrow it in adulthood. Its a phase of life. No one deserves to be Murdered.

 
At November 8, 2019 at 8:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you think of the new articles on the front page?

 
At November 8, 2019 at 9:48 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

What new article? What page?

 
At November 8, 2019 at 10:01 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Garret, I think Lynn may be right on the part that chick wasnt friends with Kirsten and them. I believe she knew them, and was more aquainted" Cause she had you invite them, Lynns right, if she was so close to them, she would done it herself. Im not saying she wasn't a friend, I smelled a rat there. I don't think she was a very close friend, or she would know how to get ahold of thwm. She may of been a complete Stranger for all I know. That, or she was just an Aquaintance. Well good luck with Kirstens page.

 
At November 9, 2019 at 4:40 AM , Blogger Garret 1962 said...

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At November 9, 2019 at 7:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nov 8,
They are under Aug, Sept, Oct 2019 on this blog

 
At November 9, 2019 at 7:35 AM , Anonymous BtightAngel said...

I checked back all the way to Aug 2019 nothing but someone who supposedly knew Kirsten. Old News. Garret thanks for contacting Brittany to remove thier names. People need thier Privacy.

 
At November 9, 2019 at 8:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was just asking about the new articles and nothing about someone who knew Kirsten.

 
At November 9, 2019 at 8:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think we got our wires crossed a little.

 
At November 10, 2019 at 9:41 AM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

I saw a big Write up on Bernadette on the front about being on Deadly Womem and her name change, is that the one? If not, which one you referring to? I agree, Bernadettes new name should be exposed! I heard.from different one's Kirsten was a Snob, and other's she was a Joyful girl. Don't matter if she was a snob, the meanest girl bully there was, what Bernadette did was horrific. Bernadette allowed 2 innocent girls to take the blame, saw the Emotional toll it took on the 2 girls. Yes she should be exposed. If you did it once, you'll do it again. She still today has issues bragging on what she did, by referring to herself as a Lifehacker. Her sister, I believe she confided in her, and her sister helped her clean the Car. Her sister should be charged with Perjury. Bernadette shows no remorse, if she went off the deepend once, she will go off it again. Sad for Kirsten. she had her Whole entire life ahead of her. I domt believe she was all that bad, she was Well liked by many, Adults loved her from what I read in Articles, she was Teachers pet and the Principal loved her. I believe Bernadette had serious issues, and was jealous. I believe it was Premeditated, why else would she bring a Butcherknife? No one uses a Butcherknife to slice Veggies. Maybe a Pearing Knife. I dont buy the Story it was found there by chance.

 
At November 10, 2019 at 11:59 AM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Do any of you believe she found the Knife by chance? It's possible, but highly unlikely. There's a girl in Ohio who buried her baby in her backyard hours after Birth, she claimed her baby was born dead, but Aitopsy said it was born Alive. She burned the corpse and buried her in the yard, tip from Dr.why she didnt come back, she said baby was stillborn and she buried it. Her mom had to help her after birth, its hard to lift. She got Probation for Wteckless homicide. A case almost similar to Bernadettes. She was a High School Cheerleader, and honor Student, yet her dad said he bought her way into Cheerleading, and she had to struggle, and was bullied. Sounds like Bernadette and and Bernadettes case all over again. They'll make a Movie and portray her the Victim to. It reminded me alot of Bernadettes case.

 
At November 10, 2019 at 3:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, that's the one.

 
At November 10, 2019 at 3:44 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

No. Landscape suicide article. Five year anniversary article.

 
At November 13, 2019 at 7:22 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Hi Bright Angel. Don't freak out now, but isn't it funny that your comments are similar to the Anonymous that claims to have known Kirsten?

 
At November 13, 2019 at 8:37 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Karen, this is about an Ohioan who was on trial for mutdering her baby. Had nothing to do with Kirsten. Sne used the same stradegy Bernadette used for her defense, and she got aquitted, she was a Cheerleader. It was Nationally known, burying her infant in her backyarf. The case reminded me of Bernadette, and her defense Stradegy was almost on Target as Bernadettes. Dont know the girl Personally anymore than I know Kirsten. You get News in Ohio it will tell you all about the Ohio Cheerleader who buried her infant in her back yard. Google it, read up on it and its very Similar to Bernadettes case and how she Struggled. I don't know the Person who knew Kirsten, but I can see why it would create Similarities.

 
At November 14, 2019 at 4:24 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't appreciate being accused of "lying". I read all your "comments". (Believe what you want)..... I don't have time for this
.... I did know (Kirsten).... I won't post no more. ,"have better things to do"..
Goodbye all.

 
At November 14, 2019 at 9:58 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL

 
At November 15, 2019 at 8:10 AM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

That's up to you to post. or not. No one said you were lying. We use this site to talk about Kirsten and how Justice was so Unfair to her. I know from what I read a Minor back in those days only got 9 years. I hear they changed that law, and try them as Adults and give them the Maximum Sentence. Usually 20 to Life if found Guilty. Today Bernadette would of gotten the Maximum. Her sister would also be jailed for Perjury! That knife was an excuse for her to testify on Bernadettes behalf. A pearing knife in a car in a Veggie Bowl would be Legit. I think Bernadette lured her out and started acting Weird as Kirsten described, and Kirsten freaked out and ran to a Nearby Home. I believe Bernadette brought the Knife in case something didn't go her way. The Movie was all Pro Bernadette, and Anti Kirsten Costas. They had Documentaries where Bernadette was Deranged and Unhinged. I believe it. I just feel a Butcher Knife beteewn a Carseat is very Unsanitary. In fact, any knife or Utensils left beteewn a Carseat is Unsanitary. I cant imagine cutting Veggies like that. No one buys that Story. Bernadette got her Diploma in Prison. got to go on to College, got married and have Children, where Kirsten was robbed of all that. I feel for the Costas family. I don't believe Kirsten was all that bad, she just had lots of Self Confidence, and was everything Bernadette wanted to be. Kirsten is the Victim here and her family. Pictures I saw she was Pretty and Self Assuring. Its Unhealthy to be Jealous or Obsessed. I feel it's a Mental Disorder. Bernadettes Parents had to be aware of any Issues. They should know that No one takes a Butcher knife to cut Veggies and leaves the Knife beteewn the Seats. She should of came up with a better one than that one.

 
At November 16, 2019 at 8:52 AM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Nov 15, some of your points were mentioned by me a while back. Are you the same person as Nov 14?

 
At November 16, 2019 at 9:08 AM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

If I suspect that some comments are from the English woman, I don't bother to call her out on it anymore. It's a bit of a laugh to see what she will write next. However, it's very inappropriate to mention the names of people from this case which should be removed, or to pretend to have been Kirsten's friend .

Person who is an acquaintance of someone who knew Kirsten: I respect that you won't be commenting here anymore, but I just wanted to say something. I'm sorry if I came across as snarky when I wrote a comment about capitalising sentences. It's not a big deal and I know my comments have been far from perfect. I don't know why I mentioned something so irrelevant at all. I think it's ridiculous that some people who read about this case are contacting Kirsten's friends. It's the same level of delusional reasoning that Bernadette had when she thought luring Kirsten out of their house under false pretences "to get to know her" was a good idea. All the best.

 
At November 16, 2019 at 8:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen, you're rogjt those people who knew Kirsten, should of kept her friends out of this blog. I never called that Gal, or anyone a Liar. I even said I believe she knew Kirsten, and in her mind she believed a friendship existed. If she was so close to them girls, why didn't she contact them? The English Woman sounds like a Kook. Who would want Bernadette as thier Role Model? A Killer she still has Issues today. Anyone who Idolizes Bernadette better check themselves into a Mental Ward, and even supporting that Monster you have to be Offbeat. Id find. another Role Model. Kirsten was a Role Model from what I ever heard. I heard she was, and heard she was Caddy. Well Bernadette should still be in Jail. Where I live in Indiana 4 girls 2 got 26 to Life for Murdering a 12 year old, and the other 2 who were less involved got only 8. They were Minors also. Skylar Meese in West Virginia her 2 bffs stabbed her to death and got a Life Sentence. They found her body over somewhere in Pennsylvania. They got exactly what they deserved to. They should get the Death Penalty like they did to thier Victim. Bernadette if it were up to me she would of gotten Life without Parole that would be if I were in a good mood. If not, the Death Penalty for Capitol Murder. I to this day say it was Premeditated. Her Sister would of gotten 5 years for Perjury if it were up to me. They are Cold and Calculating. It gets me when people say it's in the Past. If thats so bring Kirsten back to Life and it will be Past. I don't care if she was a Mean Girl, she was a teen girl and most are Caddy but People don't kill them over it. No one deserves to be Brutally Murdered. She Butchered her, so she Deserved at least Life in Prison no chance of Parole. She had Issues while Incarerated fr what I read. She still would cause a Leopard dont change its Spots. Pics I saw of Kirsten she looked Vivacious and full of Life. Bright Angel it wont let me sign in for Some Reason

 
At November 16, 2019 at 8:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bright Angel again. I would of told Bernadettes Bizarre conversation.to my friends to, if she lured me out like that and started talking Crazy stuff to me, Id so been Freaked out and would of ran to.

 
At November 17, 2019 at 8:40 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Kirsten was Bullying Bernadette, then why did Bernadette have her in her Car? Why was she so Desperrate for her Friendship that she had to Come up with a Ruse? I think and I said it before and Ill say it again, she was Jealous of Kirsten, and blamed Kirsten for all her So called Failures in Life. She would of Let those 2 Innocent Girls go to Prison if it meant Saving her Owm Skin. If the FBI hadn't of Got Involved she would be still Free today. We don't know she hasn't Killed Again and hasnt gotten Caught this time. Maybe an Innocemt Person took the Blame, she refers herself as a Lifehacker, this Time she would of Covered her Tracks better. Im not saying she did, but she is Dangerous, she went 6 Months without batting an Eye. You did it Once you'll do it Again. Bye, Bright Angel

 
At November 21, 2019 at 8:59 AM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

Where has Garret been these days? Love your Posts, and all you do. It's.kind you're making a Page for Kirsten, how is that going? Kirstem was the real Victim, not Bernadette, cause it's not right to take a Life, I dont care how.mean a girl is, she doesn't deserve to be Savagely Murdered. I read somewhere the Guys were all.Crazy about Kirsten, and one of Bernadettes Childhood Friends, and the Guys werent Interested that Much in Bernadette, its a Wonder she didn't go after her Childhood Friend as well. She in Very Unhinged even Today still is. People hate Bernadette and who can Blame them. In Prison she had Issues of Jealousy over her Boyfriend who came to see her. Wonder what her Kids would think if they kne×? Parent's that knew wouldn't want thier Kids associated with Bernadettes kids. Not fair, but Bernadette did this all to herself. She had a Choice, she should of left Kirsten alone and none of this would of happened. She should of came forth long before she did, tell the Police what happened, and she just snapped, instead of watching 2 Innocent Girls take the Blame, it took a toll on them. Bernadette I feel no Pity for her. They made her the Victim, when in Realoty its the Costas Family

 
At November 21, 2019 at 8:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

IF Bernadette didn't kill Kirsten, I think she would have done something to the childhood friend.

 
At November 22, 2019 at 10:11 AM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

You're right, she had Jealousy issues. She was Insecure, I read she was Jealous of Kirstens and her Child hood friends Friendship. She had to be Insecure to do that. I don't know what caused her Inferior Complex, and why Kirsten was a threat to her. Kirsten from my Understanding didn't have anymore money,and, her Family wasn't anymore well off than Bernadettes, so can't understand, Bernadette came from a Larger Family, and Kirsten just had a Brother. Still makes you Wonder, I think Kirsten Excelled more Socially and Academically, and it just got to the Point Bernadette couldn't handle it. She was everything Bernadette wasn't, and Bernadette wanted her Life so bad. She probably would of got her Childhood Friend if it wasn't Kirsten. Best Friends murder thier Best Friends. Look at Skylar Meeses 2 Best Friends. that was in my part of the Country in West Virginia and dumped her in Pennsylvania, I live in Indiana. Bernadette should still be in Jail now, or at least getting Paroled, my Opinion she should still be there no chance of Parole, or the Death Penalty would be the best. She knew what she was doing. She may of meant to only hurt Kirsten, doesn't matter she killed her. She should get the same as Kirsten got. She will Answer, she has pretty much, can't go anywhere without having to look over her Shoulder. As I said in another comment, we don't know she hasn't killed again, and just hasn't been caught, it could of went Unsolved,or, another Person got blamed for it. She would be able to cover her ground better this time. Don't know she has killed again, but she would cover her ground better.

 
At November 28, 2019 at 5:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

 
At November 29, 2019 at 12:24 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

You to Anonymous. We had a great one. Hope the Costas family hsd a Blessed one. I know Kirsten was missed. So sad for them or anyone who experienced what they experienced.

 
At December 18, 2019 at 8:30 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen AKA Purple Haze, self righteous hater of English people. IRA sympathiser per chance?

 
At December 18, 2019 at 5:03 PM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

Feliz navidad

 
At December 20, 2019 at 6:19 AM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

:)

 
At January 1, 2020 at 12:38 AM , Blogger LeVal said...

I think all the people from Orinda who still hate Bernadette, need to learn how to forgive. I assure you that is what Kirsten would want. I bet she’s forgiven Bernadette from the other side (yes, I believe in God and spiritual fitness). Her death opened up a whole discussion on social hierarchy. People were nicer to others and learned not to judge as a result.

 
At January 3, 2020 at 7:42 AM , Blogger Karen : ) said...

A new year, a new account, a new name...but the same person. It's not your place to tell other people what they should or shouldn't do.

 
At January 3, 2020 at 3:38 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen Not sure if its the same person, but you're right, cant tell us to forgive Bernadette. We dont have to do anything but die. Bern may do that for us. Lol.

 
At January 3, 2020 at 7:30 PM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

First off Leval, what Bernadette did was horrific, she butchered an innocent girl, maybe Kirsten was a Snob, no right to Murder. Kirsten isnt near a bully as Bernadette, least she never Murdered. I heard good and bad both in Kirsten, some say she was a Bully, some said a Snob, some said she was down to Earth and charming. Regardless she was annoyed with Bernadette for lying. I cant picture her being a Bully was said by "one girl: Well the family of Kirsten suffered and still suffers Horribly. So forgive Bern. I dont hate her, dont know her or care to. She let 2 innocent girls get blamed, she refers herself as a (life hacker) and she recently posted on the Anniversary date whatba Glorious day this is. She Murdered once she will do it again. Whos to say she hasn't. She'd cover it alot better this time. You dont know she hasnt, maybe it went "Unsolved" or an Innocent Person is sitting in jail over it. She's so good at Innocent persons taking the wrap. So she isnt Remorseful so why should we forgive her. Like I said, who's to say she won't do it again, or has done it again and just didnt get caught. So dont defend a Psycho once a Sociopath always a Sociopath. Bullying wasnt the issue, Jealousy was. If Bern would of left her alone, Kirsten today would still be Alive (maybe), point is a senseless murder occured when it should of never. Kirsten had beloved friends who loved her. A friends mom said Kirsten wasnt Exclusive and liked everybody and was Adorable. To be a Cheerleader you have to fit that Category. On one site, Kirsten was called a B..... That was probaly Barnyard Bernie, her sister, or BFF who once called Kirsten that. Kirsten probaly spotted they were Trouble, she spotted Bernadette was Weird. Bernadette has zero to none remorse. If she truly did, she wouldnt be boasting on her youtube and facebook page, she'd also come forth, Karen Severson came on Dr. Phil to discuss her part in the murder of Missy Availa. She's not really remorseful either, but more than Bernie. If anything, theyre remorseful they got caught. That 1 girl told on Karen Severson and Laura Doyle, the 3rd girl. They're as sick and twisted as Bernadette and Karens benefitting off a book on it. Well to me she at least owned her part. Bern is escaping her part. Town of Orinda will always consider Bern a Public Enemy.

 
At January 3, 2020 at 7:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Dec 18th 8:30 AM. What does Purple Haze AKA Karen hating English people, and Sympathetic towards NRA got to do with this site? We don't care. This is to discuss Kirsten so grow up.

 
At January 3, 2020 at 9:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just stop with the Nonesense you create on here if you're the one who gets on here and stirs up Drama. You have a problem with someone Anonymous Dec 18th at 8:30 AM go to them and tell them. Just stop posting Stupid Stuff on here, you're way to old. This is a Site as I said to discuss Kirsten, not for you to get on here harrassing people. Its very disrespectful to Kirstens friends and Supporters, so just Stop.

 
At January 4, 2020 at 9:52 AM , Anonymous Bright Angel 768 said...

I so agree. The Person doing that needs a Life. Obviously has nothing better to do. so she\he gets on here and starts Drama. People who call Kirsten a Bully who don't know her, probaly some Reject themselves that was Relentlessly Bullied, some Oddball that no one liked, well can't base Kirsten on your own Bullying experience, cause this is so not the Case. She called out Bern, on her Bizarre behavior, and B thought she would expose her. From what I gather and read, B had just much money and a bigger house than Kirsten. Kirsten didn't live in a Mansion, a nice Ranchstyle home as nice as Bernadettes. BTW Bernadette wasn't any Outcast, she had Plenty of Friends. Kirsten was more Popular than Bernie. Bernadette didn't have Boyfriends, but she was still well liked. Do a Research, it tells you all. Kirsten was Charming, and Bubbly and Bouncy her Classmates loved her Energy. So she hardly sounds like a Bully at all. So she had a few people she didn't like, who don't, no reason to Murder the Girl. Most teen girls are Snippy, Im sure there's worse than Kirsten. I guarantee Kirsten would never Murder, or Brutally harm Someone. Bernadette did. So the People in Orinda don't have to Forgive. Tell the Costas family to Forgive her and see what they say. Not saying Kirsten hasn't. We dont know there's an Afterlife, (not saying there isn't), but we dont know if it's not till Judgement Day or your Soul goes to rest with the Lord, and youre with him. Again ypu could get Judged right when you die. I don't know I never died Obviously. It's a whole new and different Realm. Kirsten People believe even if she was Snotty she would of grown out of it. She can't now thank to Bernadette. Bernadette should of gotten the Death Penalty like she gave Kirsten. Same for Karen Severson and Laura Doyle, and that Eva one who Reported them should of gotten time for withholding Evidence. They described Missy as a Cruel Bully also and Promiscuous. Dont matter if she was either she didn't deserve to die either. Those Murdering Beasts all should of including Bern.

 
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